Episode 600: Two Robots Talking to Each Other

Daniel and Manton talk about Manton’s recent blog posts about allegations that OpenAI stole Scarlett Johansson’s voice. They talk about the difficulty of arguing on facts when emotions run high, and how people on the internet might jump into any debate if it puts an “enemy” in a less horrible light. They talk specifically about whether Scarlett Johansson has a legal case against OpenAI, and about the importance of using facts when debating issues you care about and not resorting to exaggerations or falsehoods. Finally, they ask how we as technologists can lean into AI while maintaining human emotion and engagement.

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May 25, 2024 at 7:28 pm.

Episode 599: Settling All Business

Micro Camp 2024 is today! Daniel and Manton talk about Micro.blog’s online event, Jean MacDonald leaving the company, and expensive top-level domain names. Then they review the announcements this week from OpenAI and Google, and what all the AI news may mean for Apple, Siri, and WWDC 2024.

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May 17, 2024 at 2:40 pm.

Episode 598: Maybe They Just Hate Pianos

Daniel and Manton talk about Apple’s latest event and the release of new iPads, Apple Pencil, and Magic Keyboard. They wonder whether iPad will ever be able to run Mac apps? They react to Apple’s new “Crush!” ad, and wonder whether they will pull it and/or apologize (spoiler: they did!). Finally, they talk about Mastodon’s new US non-profit, and Jack Dorsey leaving the board of Bluesky.

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  • Apple Event – Apple’s May 7 event announcing new iPads.
  • Dithering – Membership-only podcast by John Gruber and Ben Thompson.
  • Accidental Tech Podcast – Popular tech podcast with an Apple slant.
  • Give Us a Tablet – Manton’s 2008 post describing his desire for a Mac-based tablet.
  • Crush! – Apple’s controversial iPad Pro ad.
  • Boom Kill Cry – Adam Lisagor’s take on Apple’s ad.
  • Mastodon U.S. Non-Profit – Blog post announcing the new corporation.
  • Ghost – Another non-profit publishing platform.
  • ActivityPub – The open protocol behind Mastodon.
  • Micro.blog – Manton’s microblogging service, also an ActivityPub participant.
  • Bluesky – The social network that spun out of Twitter before Elon Musk could stop it …
  • Jack Dorsey Quits – The Guardian reports on Dorsey’s departure from the Bluesky board.
  • Nostr – Another decentralized social networking platform.

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May 9, 2024 at 10:05 pm.

Episode 597: More Polarized

Daniel and Manton react to Apple’s further tweaks to the Core Technology Fee for the App Store in the EU. They discuss Micro.blog’s new photo features that use generative AI, giving users the option to disable AI features, and more extremist anti-AI beliefs.

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May 3, 2024 at 8:41 pm.